Isn't that illegal under equality laws on the grounds that it dscriminates against christians? Whatever next - Hindus eating steak?
In other news, Pork Farms have announced that they will be closing their Market Drayton factory and relocating to Riyadh.
Will the kids be encouraged to watchithttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U3hAeD6jq0's production, GOTTY?Note the laughter and enjoyment of the righteous cunts.
Sorry for the corruption above. I ask the question, will the kids get to "enjoy" how it's done?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U3hAeD6jq0
I think you've summed it up in that last sentence there.
As my dear old Nan used to say, "I don't mind people shittin' on me - as long as they don't try rubbin' it in afterwards".WELL THESE FUCKWITS ARE RUBBING IT IN (sorry, shouting now).Really have had enough now chaps - could you pack up and fuck off back to wherever it is you came from? You'll be far happier and, more importantly, so would we.
Un fucking believable!!! Fucking hell I need to watch my blood pressure.
This will only happen if parents are either frightened or stupid enough to allow it to happen ..If parents, en-masse were to boycott school dinners .. there's little or nothing that the government, education authorities or indeed individual schools could do about it ..Schools cannot prevent children from bringing packed lunches to school ..As the old saying goes .. "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink" ..
"However, the local authority admitted that the plans to expand the scheme into primary schools is on hold until autumn after complaints from parents.Councillor Brian Gate, portfolio holder for schools and colleges, said: 'We consulted with primary schools about the provision of hot meals to their schools but the decision about whether to use an individual provider is for schools to make, as the funding is delegated to them.'At present we are not proceeding to roll this programme out more widely but this is because of the cost constraints and the level of interest from parents. We will be reviewing the position with schools in the autumn.'"
Tis surely a secret vegetarian plot. If all meat is halal or kosher some people would refrain from eating it due to animal welfare concerns.
I really really really have had enough of this "cuntry"
It also discriminates against Jews, Vegetarians, Vegans etc ..But more importantly, it will be interesting to see whether (or not) the Animal Rights Brigade have anything to say about the matter ..
It is another reminder of the cowardice of the animal rights idiots. Ban vivesection, ban bull fighting but campaign against religious nutters who slaughter animals in the most barbaric manner? No chance. How long will it be before there are some ceremonies that perform this slaughter in the UK? Not in the streets but certainly a closed doors affair allowing the youngsters to watch some of their rituals being performed and nothing will be done to stop it.
Intersting thing is that I really struggled to find any covergae of this in the British Press. (although I didn't do an exhaustive search).There'll be no objections if no fucker knows abot this. Perhaps that's the plan then?
Many a true word HS. ;)
This throws a little more light on the subject ...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1300589/Parents-fury-town-hall-plans-halal-menus-schools.html
That's the thing OR. Some righteous wheelchair bound, tofu eating lezzer with mixed raced parents will soon put a stop to that. "It's not fair" they'll say.Forcing the majority to eat something the minority prefer isn't fucking fair either!
Just wish they'd print that on the front page of the Sunl, James. That'd wake the 60inch plasma watching, Stella drinking, X factor generation up a bit, eh.
"<span>could you pack up and fuck off back to wherever it is you came from? You'll be far happier and, more importantly, so would we."</span>Too fucking right!btw, that phrase takes Gotty's sound advice of the year award ;)
Mine's doing the hokey fucking kokey at the moment and my piss is so hot I'm off to steam clean the nearet graffitti ridden wall.
Yeah, but will any of those righteous surban 'next door to the jones' do anything about it. Will they fucking fuck.Stand up and fight you spinless cunts!
Only last week the RSPCA hounded a poor old guy litarally to death over a herd of perfectly healthy ponies that they confiscated because they "may at some time in the future have suffered" (from some unspecified hazard).Don't try to get them interested in halal slaughter though - may be you on the receiving end of their rightiousness.
The veggies can fuck off too! Why the fuck can't we choose want we want to eat for fuck's sake!
I'm at a loss to see how the fuck we can win it back. So few of us, so many benefit dependant cuntwipes.....
SadbutmadThat'll be because there's no fucker in school until the Autumn!
I'm obliged to m'learned friend!
Fuck me... now my blood pressure really is fucked!
I seem to recall that its already been done Craig ..For some reason Wandsworth rings bells, back in the early 80's ..About the same time as the Hindu population of Hounslow & Southall were launching their recently dearly departed relatives on old doors into the Grand Union Canal at Brentford Lock ...
I loathe this vile woman, but even she makes some startling revelations, concerning the outright stupidity of our Political classes, and what they're turning a blind eye too in the shambolic politically correct Britain, of which they've now created for our own off spring to endure.
Dinnerlady to schoolkid :- How'd you like your meat son, halal killed or clone bred?
Yep Jack - the RSPCfuckinA are for the most part a po-faced load of self-important jackboot wannabes who wouldn't recognise an animal in distress if it bit them on the bollocks. They waste thousands of pounds of hard earnt money sent in by soft-hearted grannies and are very busy sucking the knob of whoever happens to be the relevant government minister that week.Fuck em. And the donkey they rode in on.
Tomorrow night and Saturday, people across Britain will be getting pissed up and having a good time drinking (as is the norm at the weekend). Imagine how many of these people will get a kebab or maybe chicken and chips afterwards? How many of these fuckers will see the Halal sign on the outside of the takeaway and realise how their lovely 'beer food' came to fruition?... next to fucking zero will realise how their meat was slaughtered because they are too fucking thick to give a shit. People need to wake the fucking fuck up and realise how things like Islamification and Dhimmitude *slowly* (but surely) are creeping in. Drawing a fucking diagram won't work as the sheeple have X-fucking-Factor, Corrie, and EastBenders to fuse their brains into submission. Bring on the revolution and let's get this shit over with and start afresh... it's time for a clean-out and it's not just these islamic nutters that need to go neither.
Or - you can take a whore to culture, but you can't make her think!
The simple answer is that all kids & teachers of schools that are considering having Halal meat, MUST first visit an abbatoir to witness the slow lingering demise of an animal bleeding to death.No exceptions, no excuses. 100% attendance at an execution before any delivery.
Holy fuck, they lobbed dead people into a canal! What was done about that? Is that even done back in the "old country"?
Spot on Joe. I'd go further - everyone should visit an abbatoir and watch their meat being prepared. There'd be a few more vegetarians after that day!
Yep .. the loaded 'em on old doors, surrounded by lit tea-lights & floated them merrily away down the Grand Union Canal .. in imitation of what they do on the "sacred" Ganges ...It caused quite a stir in the press back in the 80's .. I think in the end, they were "advised" that it wasn't acceptable ..
Oh .. that and the fact that in UK we actually require the completion of Death Certificates ..
How evil for these backward and uneducated mussies to believe it is right to slit an animals throat. How cruel and painful for the animal. It is heartbreaking to think of the agony of death for these creatures. And now they are "celebrating" Ramadan - eating and drinking nothing during the day for 30 days - what a stupid way to live just because some idiot told them to do it 1400 years ago. How pathetic and childish! Can't they grow up?
This is halal meat,killing the muslim way.Barbaric and cruel,the method of killing animals should have no place in a decent society.A muslim says a prayer of the animal,so the meat is blessed or cursed,take your pick.Strongest possible content warning,if you already know what halal is,then don't click the video.Severe content warning.http://www.youtube.com/v/HQOKQ__3vQw" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="170" height="140
You get what you vote for, note the names on the left.Safe link to click.http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://www.conservativemuslimforum.com/_homepage2.php?id=39
Why is it every time that fuck-wit cameron opens his mouths he talks about how lovely it will be if let 70 plus millions into the E.U. (that means here)Oh and Iran has nuclear weapons...Sorry it's bbc,there's a video on the link.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10886435
It will be worse than you think because doesn't that also mean that pork products will be completely missing from menus too?Hard working British pig famers are discriminated against because some cunt decides foreign fucking rag headed cunts should dictate what our kids eat at school?
Better still, parents can decide to send theor kids to school with packed lunches, every one of which is predominantly made from pork.What then...cunts.
Fucking muzzie cunts, exterminate the fucking lot of 'em!!!!
Maybe we should be attacking the bigger problem? The EU. The Lib-Lab-Con trick are part and parcel of this unelected cabal of piss-taking MEP's. By (the EU's laws) all borders cannot be closed and so every piece of scum on earth is free to come into the UK.We've now got the Bilderberg/Freemason/EU luvvie 'Call me Dave the Twat' trying to appease his masters and let all the Turks in. If these ass-stabbing rapists get in we are fucking fucked. But no... all the masses give a fuck about is how Lindsay Lohan/Jordan/Big Brother are doing.Most people you could smash them round the head with a baseball bat and they still wouldn't wake up.
Looking on the bright side this might allow the re-opening of the thousands of premises in provincial towns and cities that once housed local abbatoirs closed down by the animal rights brigade in the pay of Bernard Mathews.They can now be "recycled!" into "local!" Halal providers and create "jobs, training and skills!"
Interesting link to Cameron, even though they have not updated it to note his recent elevation to PM.Do you suppose that if we all drove around with Haram stickers on our cars they might leave us alone or even go away?
If that picture has been taken in Britain, how about the Elfin Safety angle? surely animal blood running along the street must be a health hazard?
Hey you veggie bashers, not all of us are Nazis! I don't eat meat on moral grounds but the old man and my two kids eat meat which I cook and prepare for them. I would not allow Kosher or Halal meat into the house nor do I allow veal but that's pretty much it. I believe that it's not my place to dictate on such a thing as not eating meat (or eating meat) is a personal choice. It does grieve me though that Halal meat could be entering mainstream meat products just because it comes from the arse-end of an animal.Were I unfortunate enough to live in Harrow however, I would certainly not allow my kids to eat this filth at school. An animal suffers at slaughter whatever animal welfare policies are in place but during a ritualised killing such as this the poor creature suffers unbelievable pain and distress. This method of killing is unacceptable in our society and yet because someone believes in a pile of religious mumbo-jumbo bullshit it is OK. I really, really don't get it.Pakistan Society of Harrow co-ordinator Mohammad Rizvi said: "For Muslim children the only option they have to eat is halal whereas it isn't a problem for children of other faiths to eat halal." Well Mr Rizvi, you can shove your opinions up your arse sideways along with half a dozen pork chops. I've got a HUGE problem with my kids eating halal and a HUGE problem with what you twats are proposing. I suspect many others have too.God help my local county council if they should propose the same dick-headed policy to pander to the many, many Muslims here. Hell hath no fury.....
Well said. One of my old teachers once said, "Watch how a man deals with animals. Because ultimately that's how he would like to deal with people".Mix in a bit of sky-pixie hocus pocus and we're guaranteed all kinds of trouble.
LOL"Why is it every time that fuck-wit cameron opens his mouths he talks about how lovely it will be if let 70 plus millions into the E.U. (that means here) "Cos he's a fuck-wit ???
"They can now be "recycled!" into "local!" Halal providers and create "jobs, training and skills!"Yes .. but only for other Muslims .. You don't imagine for one minute that they'll ever allow "filthy "kaffir" non-believers" to participate in the preparation of their food do you ?Which will mean a sudden influx of trained "Halal" butchers from abroad ..
This seems tome to be an example of islamification by the back door. How long before all kid's school uniform incorporates the burkah, because a minority of parents want theirs to wear it? How long before all laws and customs are subject to sharia law, in case some muslims get offended? if you want compulsory halal meat go and live in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan!Gildas the Monk >:o
<span><span>Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 18</span></span><span>"Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion...."</span>To my mind, this means that Muslim students are entitled to bring a packed lunch with whatever they want in it, if they can't or won't eat school dinners. BUT if other students are forced to eat religiously-prepared food, their freedom of religion is being breached. They are being forced to conform to an alien culture. The tail wags the dog yet again.
Apparently, parents are fighting back Gotty ..Hence the fact that Harrow Council are now shitting conkers & issuing statements like " .... level of interest from parents" (note the use of "interest" as opposed to "anger" ) ..Meanwhile the Council are frantically rowing for the shore ...Hope the fuckers capsize en-route ...
but but but - fighting back? our choice is to fight back or accept it?but *how* are we in the position of appeasement to a minority that is designed to piss off the majority?it's not fighting back this issue it's fighting the assumption that it was a good idea to piss off just about every religious and non-religious person in about every conceivable way just to... what? impress muslims? stop the death threats? why, on earth, could this have been considered a good idea by any sane person not infront of a camera with a hood over his head?it's like fighting insanity when you have the insane on your side.
"Fuck the mother fucking, fucketty, fucking, fuck off"!I agree.Now i don't have kids as of yet, but i can see myself getting in trouble when i do. Not small trouble like being caught realising the little tikes into the wrong 'catchment area', or whatever term they use to describe us sardines these days, but big trouble like telling the arshole teacher, yes 'arshole' teacher, not 'head' teacher to "Fuck the mother fucking, fucketty, fucking, fuck off"!http://groompytom.blogspot.com/
islamification is no different from any other group trying to impose their values on society - another form of righteousness - and they can all fuck offthis is differentthis is US imposing their shit on ourselves. I genuinely can't understand how a british council could ever have thought pissing off just about everybody except the muslims would ever be a good way of spending our money and indoctrinating our children.multiculturism is dead, Paedo Mo has won.
I totally agree. I don't eat meat either, but this story is not about meat eating versus vegitarianism, it's about destroying our way of life and culture.I had no intention of "voluntarily" supporting any charities asking for donations to Pakistan. After reading Nicolala's quote above they will have to fight over my dead body before getting any of my money.By the way, it was front page headlines on the Daily Star today. I will keep an eye on their comments page to see what gets said...
Where are the RSPGfuckingA on this one, they did a guy for drowning a squirrel the other week, perhaps he should have hung it upside down, cut it's throat then told them he was going to eat it!!! This has all got to be stopped FFS.
Of course they cannot grow up, you cannot do with a a welfare giro and a brick built house something that takes a couple of thousand years of natural evolution, these cunts are near stoneage in many respects, mobile phones, ipods and wide screen TV's will not change that.
Now that's a good rant! :)
Not an islamification, just chickenshit bureaucrats deploying lowest common denominator thinking to avoid the possibility of future confrontation with a minority. There is so far no suggestion that this change, aping an earlier change for secondary schools, has been prompted by lobbying.Parents' outrage over halal-only school dinners planned for primary schoolsThe justification given is "dieticians recommended the policy due to difficulties storing and preparing two sorts of meat."This smells funny. I would venture no credible dietician would ever suggest such a thing. A bean counter might if there is additional cost involved in preparing two types of meat separately but not a dietician.Even the president of the Halal Food Authority thinks the council is wrong.
Soon we will drinking mint tea no more, beer bellies, it will be TEA TUMMIES.
Last night on BBC quick news was a real newsworthy story about 3 kids dying. Unfortunately this was sandwiched between the headline story (naomi fucking campbell and the ''blood'' diamonds) and Lily Allen getting up the duff. Two complete non-events but used to gloss over all the other shit. What chance do the feckless have of actually seeing what the fuck is actually going on around them. Fucking Buckley's chance they have.
.... and what sort of rag head, left wing, lezzy, free wheeling dieticians were these???????
That's the irony of the fucked, my friend.
I have drastically reduced the amount of meat i eat, because nobody can truthfully tell me the animals did not suffer from the farm gate to the plate . And it is very tiresome that meat eaters deride people who care enough to inform themselves about the truth, which is never spoken about in mainstream media . If you want to eat meat that is your choice but if i stand up for animals i also stand up for humans, a caring nature is a caring nature no matter who you deal with. People who have no regard for life do not care if you are animal or human . Slit the throat of a concious animal , next step a human being!Drown a squirrel ,drown a child , not much difference. To me if you are that cold hearted and psychopathic to enjoy inflicting pain and suffering on one creature , why not do it to humans. Serial killers start with torturing and killing animals and then they progress.Pulled up outside a pizza shop the other day that had just opened , saw the small halal sign in the window , stayed in the car and drove off, they will not get my money.
Hi AG ...I fully respect your decision not to eat meat (for whatever reason) .. I don't have a problem with that, but in fact the problem here is not "Carnivores v Non-Carnivores"The problem here is that a Local Authority had the temerity to try to force a particular kind of meat onto all school children in its catchment area .. that is plain wrong & they have no right, or remit to do so ..I can't however agree with your correlation "Drown a Squirrel, drown a child .. not much difference" ..I think there's one hell of a difference .. for example if I was driving along and a child unexpectedly ran into the road in front of me, I would move heaven & earth to avoid hitting that child .. even if it meant injuring myself in the process ...I would not take the same, potentially dangerous evasive action to avoid running over a Cat ..A human life has to be more important than an animal one .. that's what makes us different from animals .. Having said that, I would not deliberately hurt any animal, nor would I condone any one who did ..
The first 4 comments are these:Muslim meals for pupils. What country are we living in? - Mick LutonSo Christian schoolchildren are forced to eat halal food. What about their human rights & why do we, as a nation, moan then put up with it? - Paul LancsI would urge the parents of these kids to kick up hell, if it was the other way round, the muslims would. - Ken from LiverpoolTo have more halal meat production is completely barbaric. It's intense animal cruelty! Keep this out of our schools. Chris London
Those barbarians, someone should do that to them! Asswipes.Have a nice weekend, GOT, I don't think I"ll eat stead today.
Greetings Captain H, Running over a cat , different to running over a child i agree , i would try to avoid doing both. But you are talking about an accident , not the premeditated actions of scumbags who gain pleasure, torturing helpless animals or humans. As i stated before serial killers start with animals then progress to people, animal cruelty leads to human cruelty. Would i leave my child with someone who would drown a squirrel ? no way! That piece of scum that kicked that poor puppy in front of his laughing mates ,do you think that is the first time he has done something like that? This is the first time he has been caught on camera, that was his downfall. And good riddance to bad rubbish. I do not think for one second that he would not be capable of kicking a person who looked at him the wrong way or an elderly person to get hold of their pension.This halah crap is creeping in over here into Australia , you just have to read the labels carefully on major supermarket brands which very few people do. We have very few muslims as a % of the population , but yoghurt from Coles , one of our two big supermarkets has halal gelatine in it. So do a couple of other brands. Is it obvious just by looking at it on the shelf ? no . I do not buy it anymore and will i be telling them they have lost a customer. Death by a thousand cuts or change by creep ,slowly ,slowly whilst the citizens are too wrapped up in Masterchef ,our version of x factor or idol but with the added elemet of food.Food labelling over here is woeful and deceitful , free range chicken is promoted as being ethical , and independently audited so you think it would be genuinely better, than the mainstream product which is cheaper. Oh no . Looking at the producers website it is halal certified ! Nothing on the packaging makes that clear . I rang them up and the receptionist could only tell me it meant they were bled out, but she did not really know . To her credit she said the quality manager would ring me back to explain further and he did contact me , as i was out he left his contact details on the answerphone. I will be chasing it up.My advice, ring up the Local Authority ,email, hand write a letter , ring your MP make yourself a pain in the arse. When i get the brush off i just remind them i pay them and i vote , for what it is worth.
AGYou make a very interesting point about foodstuffs that may contain halal ingredients that are not easy to spot and as a result we may be unwittingly consuming halal products. I've had a quick look through my cupboards and haven't spotted any but I will certainly be keeping an eye open in the future.If I do discover any 'named' brands that support halal ingredients I will publish them here. Perhaps anyone else discovering them wll be kind enough to let us know too.
May I remind you that some fast food chains in the UK now have halal only outlets, they don't always make this clear, so you may be consuming halal meat and chicken without realising.KFC - list of approx 96 halal outlets HERESubway - halal only outlets available by county HEREMcDonalds and Burger King don't appear to be involved as yet and Domino's Pizza only has one halal store which is in Hall Green, Birmingham.If you know any different, please let us know her ;)
In my limited experience the question to ask at this point is: who are the directors of the meat company and how are they connected to a) counsellors and b) council employees. Islam may have less to do with it than first appears.One point needs to be understood. All slaughter of large animals and farmed poultry works in the same way; the main blood vessels are severed, the animal hung up, death occurs from exsanguination. It is done this way because the heart is used to pump blood out of the tissue, otherwise the meat would spoil more quickly. The hanging is done to use gravity to aid the proces and make handling easier. Since 1958 pre-stunning has been mandatory in the US but slaughterhouses would probably have adopted it anyway. It makes the animal easier to handle and improves the quality of the meat by relaxing the muscles. It is said to make the animal unaware, and therefore without pain and distress. However, it is very difficult to veryify this with the animal.The issue is whether pre-stunning by either electicity or captive bolt should be mandatory even for religiously slaughtered animals in the UK. Until recently religious authorities held that pre-stunning was not consistent with religious texts, but I gather there has been some dispute about that.In the end, eating meat will necessitate killing an animal. No average consumer of meat in the UK is in a strong position to pontificate about barbarity because, as people like Hugh Fearnley-Wittingstall have been boring us rigid with this past decade, our treatment of many animals while they are alive often leaves a lot to be desired, never mind the exact conditions of their dispatch.Personally, I'm less concerned about pre-stunning than I am about the long-term handling of the animal in terms of how it is fed, housed, medicated, and transported. If one is looking to reduce the over-all amount of suffering it means accepting that meat prices will rise as making sure you are eating an animal which has had a good life does not come cheap.Pre-stunning before exsangination is only a very small part of that process.
Have a read of KFC's FAQ's, in Gotty's linky - particularly points 6-10. They mention "pre-stunning" and suggest that this practice is now acceptable to many Muslim Scholars.
Indeed, and I think the religious authorities will move that way over the next ten years, which will be a political decision.However, it is important to separate sentiment from reality. It has been argued (although based on only limited tests) that the expert cutting of the carotid artery cuts the blood to the brain and produces unconsciousness within seconds, thus minimizing pain and the period of awareness.The cut must be done correctly and with only the sharpest of knives, which must never be allowed to blunt in use. The animal should be as calm as possible and not expecting it.The additional process of stunning, then the short delay before slaughter is argued to increase, not decrease, the amount of suffering. It is possible that the process pacifies the beast and thus suits the meat-processor more than the animal, who will not resist (witness the fall of several feet in the video, during which limbs may be broken). It may be more about our perception of what is kind, than what is objectively the case. I do not know which is right. I do know that it's not as simple as halal=bad.
WoaR, I read your piece with a great deal of interest. I agree with a lot of what you say. Modern intensive farming methods do not sit easily with me at all. I'm 44 and stopped eating meat 23 years ago after seeing a delivery of cattle at a slaughterhouse in Leicester. I was little more than a kid and I was appalled at what I saw. You are right when you say that an animal's quality of life is poor in the run-up to it's death. Britains farmers are eager that we should all be taken in by the fluffly rural idyll when the reality is that they deal in death and profit. The more death there is the more profit for the farmer (and others) which is why farming is so intensive. That coupled with demand from a rapidly expanding population that requires low prices means that compassion in farming pretty much goes out of the window.Money makes the world go round after all.Ker-ching!!Now there are laws in place in this country that are meant to minimise the suffering of any animal when it is time for said animal to pay the price for it's very existence. If these laws did not exist then we'd still be baiting bulls with dogs in the quaint belief that such torture makes the meat more appetising. These laws apply to every single one of us unless you happen to Muslim or Jewish. It well may be tthat a decent cut to the carotid artery would lead to loss of consciousness quickly and with little suffering but certainly the then Governmental advisory body, the Farm Animal Welfare Council didn't agree in 2003. According to their studies it takes a sheep up 7 seconds to become insensible after it's throat being cut and adult cattle can take up to 40 agonising seconds before blessedly becoming unaware. Pity the poor calf that can suffer for up to two minutes. Studies carried out by FAWC showed that in many cases carotid artery contracts thus reducing the massive loss of blood required for a speedy death. How on earth, in the 21st century can this method of death be considered acceptable?If some Jewish or Muslim clerics believe that pre-stunning is acceptable then equally there are some Jewish or Muslim clerics that will argue that it is not. I say that we should settle the argument for them and make pre-stunning mandatory. If at the end of the day Jewish or Muslim sensibilites are offended by such a move they are always free to stop eating meat or leave the country.I would also welcome the day when meat products can be labelled with 'Guaranteed Kosher and Halal Free'. Hmmm.... perhaps I should write to my MP!
I just did!
<span>'Guaranteed Kosher and Halal Free Labels' Fucking great idea. Keep us updated on the response from your MP. If any</span>
Got all excited reading your penultimate paragraph - then realised that when you mentioned mandatory pre-stunning you were talking about the animals and not the Jewish + Muslim clerics. Ho hum.
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